. >> don, we have right now three different chambers, you know, three different areas of government. there's a lot that the executive branch can do. there's a lot of leadership that president obama can provide that he has not provided on this issue, and yes, there's a lot of hearts and minds that have to change in congress, a lot of them republican, and also some democrats. i think it's up to us as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials and the people representing us. a lot of times politicians act because the citizens are demanding it and crying out for it. >> right. >> that's what has to happen on this issue. >> i think, you're right, this is not -- >> we have to lead and they will follow. >> this is not a democrat or republican issue, taken is, it's going to take all of us to do it. and we have to take the politics out of it. l.z., i'll give you the last word. go ahead and go on as long as you want. sorry i cut you off. >> what she described is a microcosm of what's wrong in washington. there's this notion that